Kurt Francom is back with Geoff Openshaw to get deep into what is, quite frankly, a slower news week. Where’s the Friday info bomb? We’ve become so accustomed.

But that’s OK, because there’s still some great stuff to cover on this week’s show.

Notably, Geoff goes on an extended rant about Young Single Adult, or YSA, stakes and how they do a disservice to the YSA members as well as “regular” members in “regular” stakes.

Provo’s Missionary Training Center is about to look different, again. Not long after inaugurating two new, sleek buildings on campus, the Church has announced that five of the older buildings will be demolished to make way for some gardens and reflective space. This is the same area where the Church originally wanted to place a nine-story tower before nearby residents protested.

Apparently Mormons are bad at political involvement because that annual letter from the pulpit encouraging political participation is clearly not doing its job. Why? Because the Church has announced it will start assigning “specialists” to get people registered to vote and more involved. Democrats in Utah fear this will lead to an inevitable Republican tilt in the process.

In hot, sexy news, President Nelson met the king and queen of Tonga. Cool.

Hey, so remember that temple announced in Saratoga Springs, Utah? Well now we at least know where it will be located. It’s also going to be huge – approximately 87,000 square feet. Nutso!

If you are into the process of the new hymnbook creation, a few weeks ago the Church updated some guidelines and FAQs about the process of submitting an original work or voting on existing ones. You have until July, and we have some tips on which hymns to nix and which to add.

The St. George Utah Temple is closing for a few years for major renovations. Its annex will also be wildly out of scale. What does this mean for your weekend?!

Are Latter-day Saints a little too prone to faith-promoting rumors or mild fabrications? Probably. Our own Jared Jones covers a classic of the genre with “The Windows of Heaven,” which tells the story of Lorenzo Snow, grasshoppers, and seagulls, and is full of made-up stuff.

In other awesome temple news, a Jewish reporter was able to tour the Oakland California Temple led by none other than Elder Gary E. Stevenson of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. The writer had some wonderful insights into the parallels between the old tabernacle and LDS temples, and the piece is certainly worth your time.

TWiM’s (and apparently Leading Saints’??) Jeff Borders composed a piece about testimonies and the FIRE WITHIN.

Are American Latter-day Saints really at risk of losing religious freedom from the Equality Act of 2019? Carolyn Homer doesn’t think so.

 

Transcript

Intro

Geoff:
[0:18] I know you all missed me it’s me Jeff from this weekend morning and I’m here again singing a song as likely off the beat with whatever song I started the episode where because I don’t know what I’m starting at,
welcome to swim everybody I’ve never done an intro like that in this is the 426 time so stories.

Kurt:
[0:40] And you probably have 200 more unique intros in you Jeff.

Geoff:
[0:44] Sure so that’s Kurt frankum of.

Kurt:
[0:47] Hey guys someday I’ll be worthy enough to do the intro.

Geoff:
[0:52] Can we start over again,
what ready for y’all ready just go ahead give it to everybody ready 1 2 3 go.

Kurt:
[0:59] Hey everyone welcome back to the this week in Mormons podcast.

Geoff:
[1:04] We’re not a podcast at the show.

Kurt:
[1:06] Okay alright Hey listen.

Geoff:
[1:07] Stupid thing what a stupid thing to say what a stupid idiotic thing to say.

Kurt:
[1:12] I don’t I don’t know what you’re alluding to I have no idea.

Geoff:
[1:16] Oh you know you know you know with whom you have made your bed.

Kurt:
[1:19] You can only you can only say that if you listen to every week so you must listen to it every week Jeff.

Geoff:
[1:24] Absolutely I listen to so many podcasts throughout the week.

Kurt:
[1:29] What are your go-to oh by the way out this is Kirk Franklin with leading Saints and have the opportunity to co-host here with Jeff who is the the grandfather of all Latter Day Saint podcasts and,
and that the real hosts.

Geoff:
[1:44] Yes and this is Jeff openshaw the hosts the real hosts of this podcast the grandfather the great-grandfather,
I am I am.

Kurt:
[1:53] You’re it so I want to know if you have what are your go-to like never miss an episode of Latter-day Saints podcast and of course leading Saints goes without saying which I know for a fact you.

Geoff:
[2:03] Leading Saints III Straight I listen to Leading Saints more than one show cuz I rarely listen to these my own show at the Republic,
so I don’t get too excited I tell you the bar very low it’s like a 02 A1 now I’m just kidding but I believe you are the LDS podcast I listen to.

Kurt:
[2:21] Okay any other stores that,
what are the hours maybe we can go with snow just podcast in general do you have the.

Geoff:
[2:31] I’m thinking here what are there LDS podcast do I listen to I don’t know I’d only listened to any other ones,
Kurt you’ve taught me everything I need to know about leadership you’re basically the the the official resource of the church in this capacity the way that you find leaders and cater exclusively to them and really usurp,
the capabilities of the church itself when it comes to leadership you’re everything I need.

Kurt:
[2:57] For the record I’m not the official Source just in case my local leadership is listening which I know they’re not.

Geoff:
[3:04] I love the current we had that one meeting and you said like man I talked to like local leadership time sometimes and they’re so myopic and don’t get what we’re doing here I can’t wait until the revenue stream really kicks in.

Kurt:
[3:16] Why are you doing this.

Geoff:
[3:18] I don’t know I’m bored my family is out of town I’ve busted shop.

Kurt:
[3:21] It seems like every time I’ve recorded to your family is out of town are things okay in the openshaw household.

Geoff:
[3:28] They’re not bet yeah they’re they’re well enough that I let my wife have her space man maybe you could learn about that,
all right you’re always going to your wife saying saying give me a massage woman that’s what she wants to do every day after doing it professionally cuz that’s what she wants.

Kurt:
[3:44] You know I need a massage what can I say.

Geoff:
[3:48] Survive you don’t see me getting one.

Kurt:
[3:50] You got to marry in the massage therapist.

Geoff:
[3:54] I guess okay other podcast I listen to I’m looking at my Google podcast app.

Kurt:
[3:59] Is something playing I hear audio.

Geoff:
[4:02] It’s your show it started on my phone for some reason it’s how I.

Kurt:
[4:11] Oh yeah car e r o p a Rafi.

Geoff:
[4:14] Yeah that’s why that started anyway we got leading Saints other shows I listen to how I built this this American life sometimes the daily the science of social media pod save the world,
a bucket with Phil keoghan 99percentinvisible.

Kurt:
[4:34] So I.

Geoff:
[4:38] It literally listen to very few of them.

Kurt:
[4:41] Okay,
so I monitor various podcast since I’m in that that’s just what I do I don’t listen to all of them but there are some interesting letter the same podcasts out there have you ever listened to the,
LDS Life podcast a very interesting character.

Geoff:
[5:00] Is it related to this Mormon life.

Kurt:
[5:03] No no that’s the.

Geoff:
[5:04] Cuz that was a show one what happened to Grady to go now he’s doing ads for like razors or something I don’t know what’s going on with him the facial things not the scooter.

Kurt:
[5:16] And I recently came across one called faith-promoting rumors and it’s actually really well produced but they just fell off the map in in February of 2018 it said.

Geoff:
[5:28] Based off book based off of the name I’m assuming the idea was where the sort of assessing the fact that we love our faith-promoting rumors and why that’s an issue that seems like a cool premise.

Kurt:
[5:36] Yeah so they’ve got I mean they’ll tell stories they did one like on Green Jello it did wonton.

Geoff:
[5:43] How is that faith-promoting.

Kurt:
[5:46] Well they they just sort of talk about interesting cultural perspectives of of our church.

Geoff:
[5:53] So they’re not actually talking about faith-promoting rumors.

Kurt:
[5:56] They do this to me like they talked about like beards and whether beards are apostate or not and of course we know they’re apostate,
about Mormons and horns and things anyways it’s really well produce but then they just disappeared I guess so you can only do podcasting so long until you realize there’s no money in it.

Geoff:
[6:20] Well I mean a lot of LDS podcast come and go there are the True Believers but this is the 10th season of twin yeah this is the 10th season folks 10 years,
other than like monkeys like John Dylan or whatever show me LDS podcast with greater longevity.

Kurt:
[6:43] That hasn’t resulted in next communication.

Geoff:
[6:46] One more season I’m at as many seasons of Friends one more season to hit Fraser territory two more seasons will be at the Big Bang Theory which I know a lot of weirdos probably enjoyed so.

Kurt:
[6:58] Team one episode of The Big Bang Theory.

Geoff:
[6:59] If I goes 13 I think that takes me to some other crazy place like cheers or I don’t even know what a mash probably anyway,
that I don’t think I can do cuz I’m convinced it’s never going to go off the air now that Disney owns The Simpsons.

Kurt:
[7:14] When did that happen.

Geoff:
[7:16] Okay time for this weekend media well it’s still it’s still twin.

Kurt:
[7:19] And that’s interesting cuz of the church owns Disney so now the church owns The Simpsons.

Geoff:
[7:26] Church’s Auto didn’t even.

Kurt:
[7:27] There’s many there’s many mothers of the 90s that are very upset right now.

Geoff:
[7:32] The church does on the steak and Burger King though so I like to think it’s the churches doing that we’re getting those impossible Burgers Nationwide that that’s the church trying to get it to eat meat sparingly,
pushing that right.

Kurt:
[7:44] Nice.

Geoff:
[7:44] Talk about faith-promoting Rumours my friend,
any weight real quick because Disney bought most of the properties from 20% 20 Century Fox not all of them.

Kurt:
[7:57] Gotcha that was in the deal.

Geoff:
[7:59] Fox is one of the big classic movie studios write the name of the movie studios they bought,
they bought most of their property for the things they didn’t buy where Fox News the fox broadcast network like Fox Sports which have been spun off into the fox Corporation those ones stay alone but all the the film,
and television Production Studios that were part of box are now owned by Disney so,
not only at The Simpsons aired on Fox it’s been produced by,
20 Century Fox Studios and Disney now is that so now they now they own Disney they even tweeted after the deal was finalized deal was finalized only about a month ago,
and Denise sent a tweet to welcome to the family and was a picture of The Simpsons which to me is who is weird it’s weird to see those two Brands as one.

Kurt:
[8:46] So we’re going to have to see like Bart Simpson watch around Disneyland is at.

Geoff:
[8:50] I would think not I mean they’re so cute they’re still keeping the 20th Century Fox brand alive like Fox is still releasing movies but it’s just that,
presumably now like when you see you know the classic 20th Century Fox title card and go news.
what are owned by Time Warner for example I would say like a Time Warner on AOL Time Warner company maybe now at the bottom of the sea,
a Walt Disney Company or something like that but the steel release movies that way it would make sense because Disney for a long time had two other labeled at Touchstone for slightly more adult fair and Hollywood Studios which was another imprint they use,
for like R-rated movies and stuff like that.

Kurt:
[9:28] You know way too much about all this yet.

Geoff:
[9:30] Batman media studies boo.

Kurt:
[9:32] Nice.

Geoff:
[9:35] That’s all for this week and media Avenue vokes how is your life otherwise Kurt how is leading Saints give it to.

Kurt:
[9:43] Life is good I’m in The Mists of my
if my intent caricature week is many of you may know I’m a caricature Artist as well you can follow me dry you funny on Instagram and so I go to the high school senior all-night parties and I draw characters in the middle of the night.

Geoff:
[10:03] By the way that’s called grat that’s called grad night has a name.

Kurt:
[10:06] I don’t think we use that.

Geoff:
[10:08] And you tell they caught High School senior all-night parties that’s given the delay,
the lengthier nomenclature we’ve been embracing as a church and I were no longer investigators you are people being taught we are now Latter Day Saints of the restored Gospel of Truth and righteousness or whatever it would make sense that you tell when a grad night but you would say,
all night senior party.

Kurt:
[10:29] Party of Youth aged individuals that some may include to be members of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-Day Saint.

Geoff:
[10:36] But to be fair to the do it post graduation or is it a party before any of that actually have.

Kurt:
[10:40] So basically that the intent of this is to occupy the seniors so that they do not go out and do something stupid and in this celebratory fashion so they bring them to the school or they do.

Geoff:
[10:53] But is it after like have they graduated by this point.

Kurt:
[10:56] Yeah it was the same day as Greg.

Geoff:
[10:57] Search grad night.

Kurt:
[10:59] Yeah yeah it’s Greg. You could call it grad night until I go there and I draw the students funny and they loved it and I’m tired and then I sleep in till,
about noon and then I’m foggy the rest of the day and then I have to go back the next day so I’m going to night to Woods Cross High,
and then the following item going to the Viewmont High party and,
and then I sleep and so that’s what I’m doing and of course of course the same leading Saints,
fair that I did I do and I must say that if you’re listening to this I’m releasing an episode on June 1st this probably one of my favorite episodes,
it’s it was remarkable.

Geoff:
[11:43] Okay who’s at work can you come on tell us.

Kurt:
[11:45] So I interviewed that’s like a teaser enough so I interviewed a former YSA stake president seems Rob Farrell.

Geoff:
[11:54] I wish I could have done this interview but continue I’ll tell you why.

Kurt:
[11:57] He he had so many mic drop moments I finally just had to hold the mic for him okay he was just off the hook,
yeah I had a great perspective very articulate as
such a unique perspective on the whole repentance process on how he handled it as far as removing shame and early return missionaries and on and on and,
marriage and focusing on marriage and YSA Wards and how that can be just awful so.

Geoff:
[12:32] I would love to.

Kurt:
[12:33] Commentary about YSA.

Geoff:
[12:34] Well I have my my thesis is this Kurt,
YSA sticks are stupid that’s my thesis their dumb they shouldn’t exist,
I believe they are a product of once again ruling from a Utah perspective and even in Utah I don’t think they’re the best idea but I think there aren’t even worse idea and places that are not as densely Latter Day Saint,
I think it’s a dumb dumb idea I haven’t checked in a while of the full distribution of,
cuz what baseball do I Stakes are pretty much in the Mormon Corridor there is some of these are some of those out of there somebody but they do have one here in DC they were a couple years ago cuz there’s enough,
but DC might be the only one that even east of the Rockies as far as why I say steaks they’re stupid,
what is the point of this like we tell young single adults you’re part of this week are about you we want you to be part of the church want you to be engaged and then you do things like this to completely segregate them,
nothing ever wise a ward which I think is I think it’s good I’m Pro singles ward in general even though there’s that got the tractors there’s things.

Kurt:
[13:43] So you like the singles ward concept as long as it’s within a group of traditional words in a state.

Geoff:
[13:49] I do now I don’t mind singles word because the leadership comes from comes from your existing stick and it still gives you a chance to serve in the state,
when I was going to stay the same state that I got married in which I was in a singles ward where I met my wife,
why do I said mistake with to YSA Wards and now there’s still have to I say words into mid-singles Wards in the steak or the war in the state now they’re in the YSA stake,
as well as a couple of family words that have very low or high why I say population,
but what I liked about it is it gay people just to serve you had people in my Singles Ward you were called to be part of life.

[14:24] Use conference to be on the council to go to girls Camp you had men who were high counselors that were in the singles were they were involved in it for me and made me feel like we were part of the steak I did not feel like I was a people apart live in my own little life,
I like it didn’t matter and I appreciated that because I think it let me have more investment in the church in general because the whole point of courses you want to get married and move along and so when we got married we were still in the same state and I’m at new people in that ward of course,
but then I still need to stake president I knew all these different people and I thought it was much better,
much much better I just think it’s so exclusive and weird and especially outside of Utah they wind up being geographically,
sprawling at least for the one out here way too big so you got counselors plucked from like the DC One covers you know all like 8 million people in the greater DC area that makes OU,
it’s it doesn’t make any sense I mean why would you want to travel that much why would you want have wards that are that desperate.

[15:24] I don’t see the value and I think there’s much more value for why I say is to be within their Warden have that camaraderie and develop those relationships and then also know the people in their steak where they live as opposed to some sort of,
notion that y’all going to band together that’s why I say when there’s people that are awarded literally 30 miles away from you it’s great to you make those friendships,
how does that help you like Bill died on this where you stand in the grand scheme of things I don’t think it serves a purpose I think they’re dumb I do not get them,
I love to hear the probe the pro arguments please do I mean I guess if you do have a steak that’s all Singles Ward presumably the whole High Council,
is composed of why I says or do they bring those in from that.

Kurt:
[16:08] Yeah they bring him in just like this lyrics.

Geoff:
[16:10] So they’re basically saying you are children you cannot lead in the steak we will guide you and you just going to church and scratch backs and blah blah blah and have a good time I think that is so.

Kurt:
[16:20] You got to listen this episode kept because he makes an argument that he wanted to call why I say is to the High Council and Bettany actually did call is full release at stake Relief Society presidents were young single adults
women so.

Geoff:
[16:36] Oh good I’m good on him I mean I just thought if they have the flexibility to do that.

Kurt:
[16:40] Yeah I get that the overall. I guess so but would there be like if you did say okay no steak but you with the wards like in the DC area where they have to cover areas outside of the traditional steak.

Geoff:
[16:56] Outside of which traditional stick.

Kurt:
[16:58] We’ll just like if you if you were to DC and dissolve the steak and then just put all the wards and say there’s a towards and that’s,
and you put each ward in a traditional steak would it fit with the boundaries be identical or were they have to.

Geoff:
[17:13] Like with all those would it leave me with all the words that are currently the currently constitute the YSA stake than being just one steak anyway.

Kurt:
[17:21] Or would it have to overlap to other tradition.

Geoff:
[17:26] Little of course of course out for the most part especially outside of Utah I would say on average the typical,
preview before they started creating YSA stake the typical stake had one singles ward or branch in it if it had one at all,
for those that had him as usually wanted DC’s a little bit more dense so it had more than that New York also has three or four Singles Ward last I checked that’s all one stick but for the most part
it’s like one per stick and even though we have my steak at the to the other words just had one and so the whole stake is composed of,
of a bunch of Ward that were plucked from all these steaks of which there’s like in 08 of the eight steaks or something like that scattered around the area to make up this one hole,
it’s not like they’re all just like their together anyway so it’s.

Kurt:
[18:13] So should we protest Jeff do we march on Temple Square.

Geoff:
[18:16] Have you have a pretty funny actually one of them getting the news.

Kurt:
[18:21] Get some media attention.

Geoff:
[18:23] How do I get Peggy Fletcher stack to cover that.

Kurt:
[18:26] There be random like X Latter Day Saints just showing up like where’s my sign let’s do this guy’s.

Geoff:
[18:35] I go in all the I’m going on like ex-mo Reddit and tell him what was going on to look at it was a little out of your Lane right now but if you could just come for the numbers alone.

Kurt:
[18:43] Do this.

Geoff:
[18:44] I don’t lie and say like I left the church because of why I say steaks.

Kurt:
[18:52] Well we’re taking up a lot of time Jeff because it is a slow news week for Latter Day Saint.

Geoff:
[18:58] I miss that it’s their phone faster weeks.

Kurt:
[19:03] We need a good that we haven’t had a good solid Friday news drop-in or announcement.

Geoff:
[19:11] I think I don’t know how quiet will it be at summertime now or a couple of months removed from controls 2 months out from conference at this point so.

Kurt:
[19:19] And they’re all the the general 3 is going on vacation in July so they have to have about 4 weeks to drop something so maybe they just wait it out till August.

Geoff:
[19:30] So we’ll see if we get a June surprise well I’ll give you one of those at least one of those,
they slogan that they very quietly announced yesterday that the church is going to demolish five buildings at the Provo Missionary Training Center by the old one and replace it with a plaza Garden statuary and quiet study places.

Kurt:
[19:52] This is our lead story folks you could can you see at this load music.

Geoff:
[19:56] Look this is serious stuff all right now if it’s only interesting because if you follow The Saga of all of this I believe these are basically I should look at your Google Maps real quick,
these are sending some of the five central buildings as what they’re all what five stories tall are so right there in the middle of the campus you know you.

Kurt:
[20:16] This is where those tall buildings were supposed to go right.

Geoff:
[20:20] You want to go just one tall building back went but yeah exactly you’ve got it where the River Woods I’m too far north Jeff,
go down University there we are okay,
Missionary Training Center so five Billings now Google Maps does not have the new buildings yet what’s up with that,
so I can’t tell which 5 they’re going to because if you look at the old map there’s like,
seven of them that are seven or eight of them that are kind that old same size for the taking out five of them and they’re just going to put in a plaza and like you said yes the FTC goes right up against the neighborhood,
yeah right there and years ago I’ve been a long time actually think we would cover this up Podcast like.

Kurt:
[21:06] 2014.

Geoff:
[21:09] 2012 7,
seven years ago our our hundred second episode episode entitled liahona Roo,
what talked about this and the church one to put up this big reasonably tall tower in the middle of the MTC to,
make everything happens if we can find the storage,
where to go to cover to cover, I don’t know by looking at the old stories hear City Creek opens first YSA stake outside of Utah.

Kurt:
[21:45] It’s coming back.

Geoff:
[21:47] MTC building one of the stores still living up on the trip so yeah it was going to be taller I think it was at least 10 stories tall.

Kurt:
[21:56] And so they’re going to put some like it’s going to be like a park inside of the MPC.

Geoff:
[22:02] It sounds like it’s going to be something like that so instead of building their 9 story tall buildings they wanted to put in and all the neighbors and a big bit of Provo drama were not happy with this because there was sort of a gentleman’s agreement when the empty c1n,
this is whole Saga the church said yeah we’re not going to do any buildings are too tall so you won’t destroy any siteline have a big complex looming over your backyard whatever maybe,
and the residents are like cool I would love to church but thank you for respecting encroachment upon our our neighborhood I know they did this,
it’s funny cuz you have active Latter Day Saints who want the MTC to give the missionaries what they need but would you had them attending City Council meetings in Provo,
pushing against the church’s plan you’ll get this a lot cuz we have such a church says I need to put a big building here and we usually just say when you do church we love to work
good time does city of active Mormon going against the church and say no don’t put this here in the fridge backed off,
and now that you said instead they’re going to tear down all those buildings and now just to be replaced with,
Gardens and reflective spaces cuz they have the newer taller fancy or buildings over by the old printing facility in order to sylheti they put.

Kurt:
[23:13] Those are nice buildings.

Geoff:
[23:14] They are nice so I guess they can they can afford it.

Kurt:
[23:17] So it’s going to be this is their effort to make it feel less like a prison Maybe,
place to walk in and smell the roses.

Geoff:
[23:26] Well there was a Google really needs to update the snowman I’m looking at this old 3D map and it’s still got like this to not have the elongated driveway now that long driveway comes far in for the drop off,
you want to talk about the big turnaround very sad someday I’ll be very upset when I don’t think not even let you like get out of the car now when you drop off your missionary.

Kurt:
[23:53] I think they generally they lie you but they don’t want you to expect that so you have to go across the street where there’s just this parking lot of crying.

Geoff:
[24:01] Yeah that’s what I’ve heard they’re supposed to go over there and say our goodbyes and then just awkwardly drive across the street and there I get out of cock ID.

Kurt:
[24:07] Is there a better way to do this like what would you do Jeff if you were is this your King for a Day.

Geoff:
[24:11] I would I would I would I would troll them and start saying goodbye the parking lot and then say you know what we’re in a parking lot literally across the street from where you’re going why don’t we all just use our legs and walk across the street together and bid you farewell.

Kurt:
[24:27] Security will have your face on concrete saw.

Geoff:
[24:29] Think about this the church is there for promoting the consumption of burning of fossil fuels unnecessarily by forcing people to get into a car,
to drive up and wait in line and drop people off your pollution problems and Utah everybody and right here this is not helping I I bet,
I defy you to do the science on this and not see that there is some sort of ozone hole or pollution bubble Cloud it hangs over the MTC every Tuesday.

Kurt:
[24:59] Well Jeff speaking of of pollution let’s talk politics shall we.

Geoff:
[25:07] It’s your favorite topic tell me about.

Kurt:
[25:11] ISO Church assign specialist to help with political participation,
so this is interesting and the Salt Lake Tribune is not excited about this because the GOP will take over and shut them down,
it’s not going to happen,
but it’s alright from what I understand there’s going to be I don’t think it’s going as far as it being like a calling is that what you understand this is just a,
an assignment may be will the bishop approach somebody and say sister Jones we appreciate your random passive aggressive political comments in in Sunday school why don’t you put those to use,
and we’re going to sign you to Galvanize the neighborhood to go vote.

Geoff:
[25:55] Yeah they supposed to register people to vote mail-in ballot attend their party caucus meetings at the very Utah thing everybody not every state has a caucus so once again.

Kurt:
[26:04] Oh there’s you can take a camera to the MTC parking lot across the street that’s another place to take a camera those caucus meetings they get exciting.

Geoff:
[26:15] Have you ever been to one.

Kurt:
[26:16] Of course I have,
I’m active in my I have been a delegate you want to know I’ve been a State Delegate because this is how it happened is back when I lived in South Salt Lake and the boundaries are crazy and where inner-city I show up
there’s three people there,
we didn’t have enough to divvy out all the assignments in we sort of looked at each other and they said they want to be a State Delegate is it a sure I’ll be a State Delegate and,
there I was in the state.

Geoff:
[26:45] That was a great story house there they’re like hey you want to do this thing and you sure why not.

Kurt:
[26:50] So anyways.

Geoff:
[26:53] Well that’s exciting yeah I think this is this is my assignment this is not a calling as far as I.

Kurt:
[26:58] And it’s going to be all over the place right there is a just Utah.

Geoff:
[27:01] It does not specify obviously if you tell will be more of a hotbed for this kind of thing,
I just think it’s interesting because of course as the trip goes out of its way to say that there are Democrats are afraid this is only going to sort of deep inhale Republican,
the state is because you’ll have a lot of Utah course is very very conservative,
of the non Latter-day Saint population more liberal and there’s more liberal people who are not who are also Latter Day Saints but if you mobilize just the Latter Day Saint Force,
they were that’s going to be overwhelmingly republican-leaning people who will be trying to again other to engage in the political process and even if not deliberately it will.

Kurt:
[27:47] And I guess I just don’t understand like I mean as an organization the church would find it in their best interest especially you know being especially in Utah obviously it a lot of the
laws and legislation that impact them as an organization obviously that’s a whole nother discussion but,
cheat to have as many they want to have as many members go vote regardless of where they stand but it just so happens to be that the vast majority of them are going to fall in the GOP line right.

Geoff:
[28:15] Yeah I’m very curious how this is going to shake out.

Kurt:
[28:19] And there’s going to be somebody over a Pulpit or whatever that is.

Geoff:
[28:24] Well that’s the point because that’s the point apparently go letters from the pulpit every year where we get letters or at least every political season reminding us to vote
maybe that’s not enough maybe we are unlike you we’re not all delegates but maybe the everyday Latter Day Saint folk are not civically engaged,
has Bishop,
I had an interesting discussion in ward council this past week where it can’t basically because the Virginia is an open carry state where I live,
which I often forget because living in the DC suburbs everything is kind of feels DC and we forget that we’re still in Virginia at a whole rest of the state and most Virginia doesn’t consider us very Virginia in which,
it’s fair to every now and then when I see open carry things I forget like oh yeah you can’t do that here.

Kurt:
[29:12] DC people open carry.

Geoff:
[29:15] Not a ton it’s more when you see some businesses have signs up that prohibit it and you so you remember oh yeah that’s legal in the state and a business can therefore say don’t do it I think the point is people forget that the church officially in the handbook,
does not allow weapons inside chapels and we had a bit of an interesting aside and ward council where some people are talking about especially women talk about their husbands who are like don’t tell my husband he can’t carry his wife in the church I’m like,
it’s funny because we all Pick-A-Part things that we don’t want to obey as Latter Day Saints like we do,
and to me it’s easy cuz I’m a super in a firearm so they say no of macaron like yeah damn right I don’t want it I don’t and I was reading this came up is because we had a,
there was a letter with an Council about being safe at church and you know there’s been some shootings recently people like in churches like that guy who came in just ripped a shot a guy in the middle of sacrament meeting,
even though it was like a Mormon hate crime it’s just it was anyway they want us to be safe so,
Bamberg says no I take the anti-nephi-lehies route and bury your weapons of war and hope for the mercy of the active shooter.

[30:31] Noah Noah.

Kurt:
[30:31] Is a handbook is pretty clear so they they were sort of advocating that that we should maybe act like that’s not in the handbook.

Geoff:
[30:39] Baby I think there’s some who basically would just assume not be told her that’s in the handbook I mean I get it I also assume that the handbook doesn’t tell me that hypnotism is bad cuz he doesn’t want to go to a hypnotist show I mean.

Kurt:
[30:51] I always think of that actually when I go to these high school parties are always at the hypnotist.

Geoff:
[30:57] You said during thank you poor Wayward Latter Day Saint you.

Kurt:
[31:00] You guys should ask your Bishop about this isn’t very much discouraged.

Geoff:
[31:04] Okay I will. I will literally donate $100 to Leading Saints if you somehow document breaking from your your drawings if this happened and you say excuse me everyone excuse me and you stopped hypnotist and then read to them from him book one and tell them what it says.

Kurt:
[31:18] You know I would if I don’t have access to Hamburg one anymore so darn it.

Geoff:
[31:22] You know you can find it and I feel like when you when you previously had access to have a look when you’re grandfathered into being allowed to look at it in the purple.

Kurt:
[31:29] I wish they would allow that.

Geoff:
[31:32] It’s on Scribd but it’s not hard.

Kurt:
[31:34] Are you going to link to in the show notes Jeff.

Geoff:
[31:37] No I would never like doing the show notes I know they couldn’t remove it because now it’s all digital maybe they’ll take that out but it last time I checc,
no it wasn’t for you okay a couple quick mentions we chug along here Deva revealed the location of the Saratoga Springs Utah temple also known as the meal love honorary Temple,
she was mayor of Saratoga Springs before she was in Congress that’s literal.

Kurt:
[32:01] Well yeah but that’s the only reason I’m back back room deals happening to get a template.

Geoff:
[32:08] But what I love is like the picture that shows the temple location it shows this still the snow inverse silhouette of a temple Overland over a picture of just a Giant Pharmacy,
this is where it’s going to be folks that farmer has stopped running that long giant pole that goes in a circle to water stuff and the temp.

Kurt:
[32:32] Call the pivot Jeff pivot I married a farm girl I I know this.

Geoff:
[32:38] Lima, I’m a coastal Elite so I don’t know these,
okay anyway so they can sit back in 2017 skinny pretty big dose price 87000 square feet,
which is a that’s large that we don’t get many temples that big nowadays that’s that’s good side that’s a nowadays a big Temple will be in the 50s maybe but 87 is,
not messing around at all.

Kurt:
[33:01] The cafeteria Jeff.

Geoff:
[33:04] And that’s the thing I don’t think they’ll have one in the cafeterias are no longer in Vogue.

Kurt:
[33:07] The DC Temple has one right or they going to.

Geoff:
[33:11] DC Temple has had a cafeteria but you know I got the basement level is where it’s been but it hasn’t been used for many years as a full service
cafeterias Bakers vending machines and then you can see all the little serving area that are no longer used so I’m assuming with the renovation right now that that’s just going to get kicked out,
I have no I.

Kurt:
[33:32] The strangest thing I mean now that I think about it like many times I’ve eaten
at the I got my tote tray in the in the temple picking out which slice of pie I want is just awful strange but I guess I was a thing in the 60s right.

Geoff:
[33:47] It went up for a while till I come when I was fresh off my mission I was Avail worker in the Los Angeles and,
they still have the fully active cafeteria I don’t know if they still do now cuz this was all before Newport Beach and read them for dedicated so I’m not sure.
I would go there you know how to get up really early and drive up there and be traffic and stuff I grabbed a bowl of cereal and some cake, it was fun,
or not so I don’t think they’ll have one either way we don’t know the design of the Saratoga Springs Temple that will be made public later,
what are the groundbreaking dates or anything like that but we do know that it’s going to be located in the new Beacon Pointe Subdivision west of Redwood Road and North of meadowside Drive.

Kurt:
[34:33] Don’t think they’ll think they’ll include a Mia Love statue Jeff on the grounds or something.

Geoff:
[34:39] Yeah I hope so,
but we expect in Saratoga Springs is kind of an unwieldy City geographical you have sort of the fat northern part that just is next to Lehigh and then a trickle down along the western,
you know coast of shore of Utah Lake the temperature going to be at more in the populated area this could this could have very well been dele high Temple essentially it’s going to be sadly not way down in the subdivisions which would be cool looking across the lake,
having a temple on the hill,
but if you do remember 2007 that hill on mountain on the other side gets lit on fire sometimes so maybe.

Kurt:
[35:17] The Protector Jeff the Lord where we going next Jeff.

Geoff:
[35:26] Anchorman I don’t care one bit one hour.

Kurt:
[35:28] President Nelson Meats Italian monarchy that’s cool I mean I guess he’s done with that is recent or right.

Geoff:
[35:33] Good story Kurt I believe the Pacific Rim 2 or is over now what specific to her Pacific Rim 2 it would be great all that guy do and fighting the robot.

Kurt:
[35:43] Right.

Geoff:
[35:48] The pizza place has the big the big news of course is when he met with Jacinda ardern over a New Zealand with the sisters talked about on last week’s podcast,
it’s a it’s a bigger deal than you realize only because the king and queens son converted to the church a few years.

Kurt:
[36:09] I was their son huh.

Geoff:
[36:10] It was their son and there’s a bit of drama with that he actually wanted to join the church of and years prior and the King dispatched guard to stop the baptismal service from happen,
like they were messing they were messing around that’s what people don’t realize Tonga is the most LDS country in the world,
like 60% baptized Latter Day Saints I’m sure the activity rate does not quite reflect that but it’s too they just got their second temple announced.

Kurt:
[36:35] That’s where I don’t have Leah liahona high it’s a Latter-Day Saint High School.

Geoff:
[36:42] I guess so are we still doing that other churches getting out of the business of the very.

Kurt:
[36:45] Well I don’t know if they close the high school but anyways it’s interesting so did but he got baptized over this son be king someday is that.

Geoff:
[36:54] I don’t know how their succession works I would love it if you were cuz then he’d straight up be the first Mormon head of state in the world.

Kurt:
[37:02] And a king unless I mean it’s one thing to be president of a democracy.

Geoff:
[37:04] Elle King what you be hilarious cuz it’s because the Book of Mormon is so anti monarch.

Kurt:
[37:08] Nice.

Geoff:
[37:12] I just be up there like like could you imagine a Rally’s when people are trying to convert Tonga to a Republica start reading the book more it is better that you have not don’t have a king for King it could all be used against a very easily maybe that’s why the King was upset
all right,
the church is also updated some guidelines for him books submissions of you’ve been following this story about a year or so ago the church announced it when they were going to work on a new hymn book tide update.

Kurt:
[37:40] Do you have a date when this is going to be released her.

Geoff:
[37:42] I don’t know when it’s going to be released but the deadline is in July so it’s coming up now do either submit your own original compositions,
do what you can do which is pretty cool or you can provide simple feedback and votes on things that should be included in,
all of these are awesome so they have expanded a little bit more some fine-tuning is they call it about what you should look for in a what shit what you should either submit their vote on so the purposes are to increase faith in and worship Heavenly Father and Jesus
teach core doctrines power and Clarity invite joyful singing at home and at church Comfort the weary and inspire people to injure in faith and unify Latter Day Saints and others,
Serato.

Kurt:
[38:28] I going to make a prediction of the new hymn books going to be 10% Mack wilberg easy he’s.

Geoff:
[38:33] I hope so unsurprisingly the most voted in song at this point is Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing.

Kurt:
[38:42] Did have like is this like a church to pull their taking.

Geoff:
[38:47] There is if you go to willing to this with the show notes Here for this episode if you go there they will be linked in the in the notes to the article that has the link to link.

Kurt:
[38:57] Because they’re 10 links and then you’ll go.

Geoff:
[38:59] It’s really it’s ritsuko web best practices right there anyway yeah you can devote more open-ended it ask you a couple of questions if you look at our article Kurt thread above the video near the end when it says do me a solid,
it doesn’t have a list you choose from you can just type in whatever you want.

Kurt:
[39:14] Great SEO linkage,
oh wow they got a little for me to fill out what’s what are your favorite hymns and children’s songs,
are there additional existing hands or children’s songs that you would suggest for inclusion in the new world wide collection,
what currently include what currently included hands or songs if any might be candidates to drop from the hymn book or songbook,
I would General difficulties if any have you experienced while using a current him book or Children’s Songbook let me tell you a story Jeff let me tell you about the time I once truly presided as a bishop,
our our our organist was not there and so I asked some random member to come play and so they didn’t pick the hymns we made it through 3/4 of the first verse when I finally stood up and said
I’m going to exercise my providing power here and we’re going to sing a different hand because nobody knew how to sing this him,
so whatever him that was that should be removed.

Geoff:
[40:20] Do you think it would be useful for us to go back to the olden days when we used to actually have him practice after sacrament meeting especially with their shorter block.

Kurt:
[40:29] What was the point like to give teachers time to go to the the material Center get their chalk.

Geoff:
[40:36] Even that’s something worth considering I’m not I don’t know a primary president for example that does not bail during the closing hymn to get stuff ready.

Kurt:
[40:45] Is 10 minutes really not enough.

Geoff:
[40:46] What stock is the kids go right in there and they want to be in there with some music going and setting the example of reference I I don’t think it’s been years since I’ve not seen a primary president run out the door during the,
but it’s true I’d say honestly about what half of the current English hymn book I don’t even think we know the songs there’s 300 something songs in there and I guarantee you there’s,
fuzzy skirt.

Kurt:
[41:14] Since you’re not doing anything else let’s look it up.

Geoff:
[41:16] We’re about 40 minutes and we’ll wrap this up I was going to go to a random one scrolling let’s see your hip number 26260 to go to messengers of Glory,
everyone know that song.

Kurt:
[41:32] And sing the first couple bars Jeff.

Geoff:
[41:34] I’m just going to allow the flash here this is going to be really janky but we listen to it right now.

Kurt:
[41:55] I’m not hearing any music I’m just cheering like a cat in the background dying.

Geoff:
[42:03] No one does it.

Kurt:
[42:08] And nobody ever will because they’re going to drop it from the hymn book.

Geoff:
[42:11] All right swim Nation I want y’all go to take the survey and find him go e messengers of glory and call that one out for it,
also my tip love divine all loves excelling that,
alright St George temple man I got a couple of Temple stories,
it’s also going to be closed this year they announced for a serious renovation for the Nelson reference this a while ago that he Pioneer temples would go down we talked at some point in the past of the Salt Lake Temple plant have been revealed at the Q and I probably.

Kurt:
[42:53] Nope.

Geoff:
[42:54] Temporary doing Temple Square the whole thing so now they’ve announced what’s going to happen to the st. George temple it seems they will be altering the ground substantially and also changing the annex,
cuz it’s an older temple in it so it has a big old Annex and the new annex is like,
I mean that the artist renderings of it almost make it look like it’s overpowering the original temp.

Kurt:
[43:22] Is this looks like a Celestial room.

Geoff:
[43:29] Yeah cuz like yeah I kind of assuming that’s just a nice little entrance,
I don’t want to be that bad in person but what I do appreciate about the current Annex which is a pretty simple,
you know vaguely modern structure it’s it takes up a lot of square footage I think it’s bigger on straight floor plan than the temple itself but it’s low-slung it still lets the temple,
be the visible one getting the attention now it’s cool that the new and ex is going to match more architectural e but I worried it’s going to make the whole Temple structure that is one look kind of weird.

Kurt:
[44:06] Kind of weird at your assessment oh well I think you’ll be pleased once you see it complete.

Geoff:
[44:14] I’ve only even been up like to the st. George temple once in my life I usually see it from the freeway and say oh there it is.

Kurt:
[44:20] There is got to head to Vegas.

Geoff:
[44:21] Let’s do a session there sometime but the inside renderings looks stunning who sings it,
once again I haven’t been in the st. George temple I’m assuming they’re not going to do anything drastic cuz there’s a lot of history there,
with that said those St George temple originally tonight and have separate rooms that had curtains and,
partitions and things like that so it’s not like it hasn’t been renovated before but this looks very beautiful benches instead of the Flop down seats I think it’s cool.

Kurt:
[44:49] I love the benches.

Geoff:
[44:50] That reminds me a bit of the Manti Temple have you done a session down in st. George.

Kurt:
[44:54] I’m trying to remember if I have I’m sure I have but.

Geoff:
[44:58] I’ve never been in a long time.

Kurt:
[44:59] Visually recall it.

Geoff:
[45:02] So what school I think it’s going to be nice on the inside that’s what’s going to be closed for about nearly three years probably while they do all of this,
they could have waited in.

Kurt:
[45:12] They got Cedar City.

Geoff:
[45:13] Yeah that I’ve got that second temple it supposed to go up in St George but they haven’t started construction yet they didn’t time all this very well same thing with DC they close it down and then they announced the temple in Richmond.

Kurt:
[45:23] Is anybody even thinking about this.

Geoff:
[45:25] They should have built a temple in Richmond then close DC because it’s way easier for me to go to Richmond then it is free to go to Philadelphia so he’s in so many ways,
I could day trip Richmond just and other cool Temple news I really dig this article and if you haven’t read it yet I encourage.

[45:46] I’m so in jwj weekly which is the Jewish news of Northern California the writer David wilinski
got tattoo or the Oakland California Temple which currently has an open house it also had a lengthy renovation but now it’s coming back online
and it’s open to the public for the first time in about 55 years never been open since its original construction which is a cool opportunity for anybody so he was part of the Media Group,
I’ve got to go through the temple have a tour conducted by none other than Elder Stevenson of the Quorum of The Twelve Apostles that be pretty fun,
12 show your,
and this is a cool article cuz I I like it’s just it’s pretty much a straightforward just runs out of what it was like to go to the temple but,
showing so many of the analogs that we have in things about the temple to pull from of course the Old Testament,
Tabernacle and Temple lot and how much that symbolism really lean towards I mean I think the Temple of all the places that we do worship is the most Old Testament D of all of them even though of course you Focus On Christ,
this is not lost on a Jewish letter to say there are some good passages to weary kind of Chuckles at like what was it that was hilarious thing or so.

Kurt:
[46:59] The cafeteria Jeff chuckled at the cafeteria.

Geoff:
[47:01] Suicide one of the moon so they look at the baptismal font right
typical baptismal font in a temple you know of the bronze ox and all that stuff so it says quote hilariously one of the men leading the tour gestured toward me saying other Jewish friends will know this is the molten sea described in 1st Kings chapter 7,
they said some church members seem to share a wild optimism about Juiced miliary with the Bible I don’t think I I know many tell you anything about 1st Kings chapter 7 of the top of their head,
but I see it’s just being classic friendly Mormon to her like a dark Jewish friends.

Kurt:
[47:34] Look we’re like you.

Geoff:
[47:36] What’s a cool article to positive article,
and it’s great to the Oakland temple being it’s stunning on the inside I think it has such a cool style compared to other temples so.

Kurt:
[47:48] I’m just seeing with all these revamps of the temples like the fact that they’re you know doing couple of Tours and rededicate again like cuz there’s so many people that just see this mysterious building for decades and now it’s like well you want to come.

Geoff:
[48:01] And the Oakland Temple of course is a famous landmark,
in the Bay Area can seat up on the hill if you want to talk about faith promoting rumors right about earlier,
so there’s an ongoing urban legend of sorts that says that Pilots Landing their planes it’s either San Francisco or Oakland Airport,
I like to use the temple as a place marker as well that it not special at night time as well where they can see it and I don’t want time in California for the rolling blackouts whatever it was that there’s always enough power issues in the state,
the church trying to help out turn the lights in the temple off at night time so don’t like to do but they did it because it’s a power and those the story always goes that the pilots complain and said hey come on we’ll use that important thing for us to see but I,
so that’s the faith promoting story like I asked to speak and they need it but I’ve heard the same story about the Bountiful Temple and the Salt Lake Airport,
not really sound like we was the Bountiful Temple in the Salt Lake airport the Draper Temple and the Salt Lake airport all these ones has many places I think there is some truth to the Oakland one compared to other ones but this is actually came up in some lesson,
it wasn’t Sunday school a couple months ago so I decide to Google it and I’d like to see if there’s anything online about that story was pretty funny how much there is.

Kurt:
[49:19] Found the snoops article.

Geoff:
[49:20] Yeah basically about Mormon Snopes about basically just kind of saying this one’s gone around a lot of time so I know someone even LAX
Los Angeles Temple is a guide Mark around like okay that’s a load of crap they absolutely do not because while you could see that temple on your approach I’m sure,
it’s in the middle of Westwood there’s massive buildings on Wilt like tall condos and Office Buildings on Wilshire all around it there’s a bajillion things going on and so if you don’t even know the temple is there,
well you can see it it’s you would never use it.

Kurt:
[49:54] This one time those condos turn their lights off Jeff and the pilots complain.

Geoff:
[49:58] And I was going to say please church turn the temple light back on please we need.

Kurt:
[50:03] I love these rumors let’s continue to perpetuate them I hope everybody listening if you’re a youth leader tell that story in your necklace.

Geoff:
[50:16] Church church church your one and save apparently what else do we have 15 minutes in.

Kurt:
[50:25] I think just some mention there’s a great Muslim in Mormons video there’s an article about the equal equality act that if you want can’t sleep at night you can read that.

Geoff:
[50:39] That actually could have been a top story goodness.

Kurt:
[50:41] Slow news week Jeff border.

Geoff:
[50:44] That was an interesting article the church came out against the equality act the church came out against the equality Act,
but didn’t really going to make details about the issues with it as written other than just wasn’t enough for Religious Freedom and so a writer it by Common consent who is a First Amendment lawyer went into detail about,
what are the what are the religious exemptions we need and what is what are the alleged religious freedoms under attack,
it was compelling not a perfect piece of course but I thought it.

Kurt:
[51:14] Kobelli.

Geoff:
[51:15] It really was because people we always act like like our freedom to do these things is going to be under attack in rescinded and it’s just not I don’t believe it for a second that I’m going to lose my freedom to worship in the United States,
I just don’t it’s not,
how do I continue with your mentions.

Kurt:
[51:33] Have you sent some awesome article sir Botha this week in Mormons and leading Saints.

Geoff:
[51:41] Well well well well well well well well well exclusive retainer what the heck is this.

Kurt:
[51:47] I know he’s totally two-timing you set up and the choirs going on tour Can’t wait to get a t-shirt,
how they’re going to Europe they got places like let me tell you they got places like a Stockholm Helsinki Copenhagen,
I need Jeff has been to all these places Edinburg Edinburg.

Geoff:
[52:15] I’m sorry how do you say that.

Kurt:
[52:16] I knew it. I knew I’d pronounce wrong and you jump all over me.

Geoff:
[52:21] It’s pronounced Edinborough.

Kurt:
[52:23] His wife.

Geoff:
[52:26] Edinburg.

Kurt:
[52:27] United States of America.

Geoff:
[52:29] Yeah they’re going to go to Cardiff Wales Edinborough in the Nordic countries Copenhagen,
Oslo Stockholm and a Helsinki for the internationally minded the reason I don’t say Scandinavia is because Finland is not part of Scandinavia but it is a Nordic country,
if you wanted to know if they if they cut it short of Helsinki they could have said a Scandinavian tour.

[52:55] But Iceland is also sort of part of Scandinavia so they’re not going to wreak havoc which has a very nice newest Opera House in the could have performed in I’m just jealous I mean things are going to a man which is where is grad school,
and it’s been awhile of course but I would just I would have loved to have Motel come to town when I was.

Kurt:
[53:13] YouTube live by plane ticket Jeff.

Geoff:
[53:16] I said I haven’t been back since I graduated and that makes me very sad they’re going to they’re going to play it.

Kurt:
[53:19] What time are you can join the choir and then just get your fight paid.

Geoff:
[53:25] I could accept you see the problem is that you have to live in Utah to be in the choir,
they’re performing where’s the weather for on here I sure Hall,
anyway folks. Size to live right next to their how fun I could have walked to the show my life is sad anyway everybody what a wonderful time it’s been this week for the Mormons or the latter days.

Kurt:
[53:53] Spray for more news next week.

Geoff:
[53:54] Yeah we’ll try to get this to you I’m going to be out of pocket a little bit over the next handful of days,
so hopefully nothing crazy happens cuz I won’t be able to cover it but Imma do my best and,
someone will be here maybe to talk about it with me I try not to text Kurt 2.

Kurt:
[54:17] I’m always happy to come Jeff always happy to slide in the saddle here and share my opinion about random things it helps when there’s more news to talk about.

Geoff:
[54:25] Here’s the thing Kurt I don’t feel I don’t feel like you share your opinion very much I think you’re just good at discussing what is I don’t hear I don’t know if we get a lot of opinion and commentary from Curt I think I would like to hear your true opinion.

Kurt:
[54:38] We got to ask me questions what what opinion do want to know Jeff you won’t like it I’ll prom.

Geoff:
[54:42] Did you ask me to have you asked me to single question during the show no I just talked unprovoked.

Kurt:
[54:47] And sorry.

Geoff:
[54:52] Don’t be sorry you asked questions on your podcast all day long.

Kurt:
[54:55] That’s right I’m out of questions I’ve used them all up so.

Geoff:
[54:59] Kurt goes I’m sure he’s going to like I don’t know hit the Red Bull or something for his long night at a high school.

Kurt:
[55:05] Got to go take a nappy nap.

Geoff:
[55:06] Where is yes a nappy nap is what he’s going to go do everybody this is her freaking who lead leading Saints and adult oriented leadership podcast is going to take a nap.

Kurt:
[55:17] That’s right hey I’ve got a four-year-old in the house this is how we roll.

Geoff:
[55:20] Play IMVU on getting a nappy nap that sounds delightful
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Kurt:
[56:11] That’s right don’t miss this Sunday’s episode June 1st episode you’re going to love it.

Geoff:
[56:17] By the way Wednesday is the tour still happening.

Kurt:
[56:21] It is it’s going to be a close call if we can make that happen we need to fill a few more seats.

Geoff:
[56:25] Okay sorry I didn’t know I didn’t I didn’t I didn’t okay so folks go on the tour with Kurt.

Kurt:
[56:30] Yeah in September Church Tour Kansas City to Sharon Vermont all the major church history sites we’re stopping there it’s going to be.

Geoff:
[56:37] That’s right half of the leadership on this tour is worth your time the other half had no business doing anything but you will enjoy Kurtz presents.

Outro

Geoff:
[56:46] I like to thank all of you for taking the time to listen and I hope you have a terrific rest of your weekend weekend so as we say be safe out there be well be holy and be happy this week.

[57:48] Test test what what what what what what what what what what what what what.

Kurt:
[58:09] What is happening.